Another absolute belter, Morgoth. It's one that is crying out for a spoken version. I say this a fully-fledged, card-carrying, Brexit-voting Gammon bastard.
That'd be really great. In appreciation of this article, I might pop into Werherspoons at lunchtime for a quick pint of Old Bigot, to borrow one of your lines.
While I was reading it I was wondering what it would sound like in a variety of voices. Middle class southern female, based long term UK resident Polish female, Yorkshire as they come male, chirpy cockney middle aged dear, southwet rural male, Welsh realist male, privately educated 30-something male, pugnacious Italian female etc
Would be an interesting experiment to show how impressions are changed by accents.
I've been to Paris multiple times over the last fifteen years or so, and have watched it degrade in real time. It's both heartbreaking and disgusting, like watching an old friend fall into the depths of drug addiction. It's a living refutation of liberal policies, as is every large European metropole, which is precisely why the cosmopolitans prefer to holiday in untouched rural idylls ... cottages in Provence are ever so much more pleasant than facing reality and asking hard questions about it.
My first exposure was in 2009, I think. In comparison to what came later, particularly after the 2015 migrant rush, it was still quite pleasant - if you like crowded, smelly, and rude. The architecture was nice and the girls were beautiful, though, which makes up for a lot.
On later visits, watching my liberal colleagues studiously avoid noticing the tent cities of Africans provided a certain degree of amusement.
Our little management consulting firm used to send our shitlib interns to Paris on business just to shock them out of their silly views.
A couple of weeks rubbing shoulders with the sheer muck, filth and density of Diversity that is modern Paris usually did the trick. Often the experience of Gare du Nord was enough.
In the mainland the situation is more dire. There isn't a french or spanish or german "dissident right" with lots of articles and great voices. People are voting with their guts. They have nowhere to "cope", be it online or in public. Yet even so most people know something is wrong. The double edge sword of the Anglosphere is that it has both the biggest leftists and the most brilliant dissidents (in online terms).
Just a perspective i think everyone here should be aware of.
It's really strange how quiet the Germans and French are in terms of dissident discourse. I'm aware Eugypious has a massive substack, but by and large their online presence in terms of fostering a culture and exchange of ideas seems to be tiny. There are of course language issues, but still, who is the German or French version os, say, Sargon of Akkad or Auron Macintyre.
My point exactly. There doesn't seem to be any dissident political discourse happening outisde the mainstream in other language-spheres. And the hard truth is that many that could be "our guys" don't have a good grasp of english (especially the french). The ones that do try to bring DS content to their own countries tend to follow Anglosphone content and copy "you guys".
My guess is this battle will be entirely fought on the anglosphere, at least the intellectual part of it.
Just like music for some reason. Then again, we are the nations which wrap the power centre, so maybe we're provoked to more acute thought by plain proximity.
I´d say that that´s not entirely accurate, at least for Germany. Certainly the Anglosphere is leading online dissident discourse, with the United Kingdom being the "pound-for-pound" champion (as AA correctly observed). Dissident discourse exists within Germany, but is often entirely in German. There are only a few people who speak or write English at least some of the time. Naturally, the others have never been heard of in the Anglosphere. Eugyppius is thus an outlier in terms of language. Also, since there is a formidable German right wing party, its dealings - both within and outward-facing - soak up a lot of the dissident "discourse space".
There is a good French guy, can't remember his name, but he talks about the JQ here and how there's a French Henry Kissinger who chooses and grooms the President for the Rothschilds. Plenty of pics of him and a young Macron.
There's a decent French language dissident presence online. They were discussing remigration years before you heard of the concept in English language discourse, for example. It's just that a lot of what they discuss is specific to France or Quebec, so it won't often be translated.
When I worked as a university academic, we were encouraged to push students into ‘Erasmus’ - the ‘European Community Action Scheme for the Mobility of Students’. This program was designed to create Polly Toynbee prototypes, sending students to study in European universities and, thus, be indoctrinated into the EU cult. Students would mix only with other like-minded students with the aim of establishing a serious soft power network. When I raised concerns about the lack of socioeconomic inclusion in the scheme - that it wasn’t sending Wayne or Debbie from the West Midlands to Linz or Brussels - I was shut down pretty fast.
The participants inevitably returned to drab old Britain declaring themselves ‘citizens of Europe’. They rarely saw the ugly realities of places they studied in. Everywhere was an Air B’n’B destination. Or Polly Toynbee’s villa. Events like Brexit or what is occurring in France must be shattering and bewildering to these fragile souls. For them, the peasants really are revolting. In the hyped and boring novel ‘Normal People’, dramatised by the BBC predictably, the female protagonist Marianne goes to Sweden via the ‘Erasmus’ program, where she ends up in a sado-masochistic bondage relationship - how European…If you ever wonder where these Europhile, Britain-hating degenerate ‘elites’ come from, the people in the QUANGO’s and the Blob, look no further. They love Europe and hate us.
Liked, but button not playing. Did you notice what sort of students were ERASMUSed? Polly Toynbee, wealthy and connected would have wafted into the Guardian and Tuscany. Do they target and "train up" youth they think will benefit and promote the global ideology/hatred of Britain or is it anyone at all? Did you notice any student defy the "training"?
It’s interesting. I noticed (and this was only my personal experience but there were a few studies that backed it up) that it wasn’t the highest performing students that went for Erasmus but more the mid-achievers. Higher achievers tended to be less keen on the relocation and disruption to their set path. Those less focused seemed to welcome it. There was definitely a lefty, progressive bias but aren’t all things at university so? I never did ‘Erasmus’ - I’m autistic and already had an inbuilt reject button for anything remotely kumbaya. However, my sister did take part in the Erasmus program and spent a year at Linz University in Austria. She came home to Belfast raving about Mozart chocolates but that was about it. She went on to vote Leave in the Brexit referendum of 2016. I guess the programming only works on those that are truly open to it!!
I still can't get my head round the mental gymnastics required to be a liberal.
To walk through a once-whyte London, Birmingham Manchester and at the end of the day still maintain diversity is our strength and it's all "enriching" etc.
Where do these people come from?
Have they always been in our society?
In the Middle Ages before mass behavioural psychology and propaganda, would they just have been ploughing the fields without an original thought in their head? Giving a weary wanderer a pint of ale in a pub?
Where DO they come from?
Are they just blank slates or true believers?
If we lived in a healthier, more right-wing society, would they be fervently patrolling the borders or burning LGBT flags?
I just can't work these people out. It's like the have these idyllic images in their head of all peoples holding hands in a circle and singing "Kumbaya, my lord" and they hold onto this despite reality punching them in the face.
My auntie, a total leftie "let them all in" type said a similar thing, she said there's so much technology to save lives at birth, maybe we're not meant to.
Pretty based thing for her to say.
So, deep down, they always side with the underdog because they feel inferior? They have a secret hatred of the West because it is (traditionally) a meritocracy.
The flaw in their logic is they wouldn't be around if it wasn't for the straight, white, male.
Another fine article. I think a lot of libs have their heads so far at their arses to see the complete obvious. And I would much rather sit in a Wetherspoons that has a whiff of piss than be in some effete established populated by liberal scumbags. When we win, let's build a statue for Baz and Dave.
I fully agree. My wife just can't quite get her head around my complete hatred for the (latter) kind of place you described. I think she thinks I don't really mean it 🤣. I do.
Every time we go into Belfast city centre, there's an odd (but good-natured, usually) tension in the air as we inevitably wander around some shitlib area/café/bar. I don't mind too much though, as it would be a tad cruel to inflict on her the type of place I gravitate towards.
It's a shame that there are not more places that have an Anglo aesthetic. It seems like pubs are all we have now. I would love to see our people have more spaces that are less centred on alcohol (I'm writing as someone who likes a drink, so I am by no means anti-pub).
When I were young there were many community groups - pigeon racers, garden clubs, various labour/work related groups and also the co-ops they ran for members, libraries, youth clubs and so on that were an expression of the interests, exuberance, civic spirit and sense of belonging we made around ourselves and our settlements. These sorts of groups supported our culture and nurtured its future. This sort of healthiness is sometimes called "moral confidence" but it is more than that. I am listening to LOR on tape atm and the work emphasises cultural decline and that it is nothing to be sneezed at. I liked your comment but my "like" button is not working.
Bloody hell Morgoth, that is top-drawer analysis, as usual And biting too.
Made me wince. In truth, double over with embarrassment.
Thirty years ago I was one of those EUphile types who sought “authenticity” while blithely assuming all the French I met on trips to St. Remy-de-Provence were soft-left, Guardian reading, diversity loving, LBGTQ+ allies. I was in truth precisely the type that Jeffrey Barnard described as “…insufferable cunts”.
I note the lefty philosopher John Gray has been winding up the Remainers of late by describing their view of the EU as “…entirely mystical as opposed to empirical”.
Anyway, thanks for the painful memories. No doubt it is character building in some way.
I can only comprehend it all in simplistic old school terms.
I am alright Jack, and fuck the rest of you.
I see it all as the same classist punishment, but with rainbow flags and "Bomalians" thrown in to discombobulate, inhibit, subdue and serve as extra punishment for the average Joe.
Yes, I too have noticed the massive Liberal blind-spot, which shields their awareness from the depredations of their own policies. As you said, it's incredibly ironic that their ideal vacation is to avoid their own filth, and enjoy the unspoiled fruits of supposed fascism (a word that gets distorted and misused alot, btw).
Also, I remember once coming across a Polly Toynbee article from back in the 00s, in which she was bitching and moaning about the Narnia film adaptation of that time for being so Christian, even though the books themselves were Christian. Right then I knew that she was unworthy of her venerable surname.
The native citizens of the West seem to be in a suicide pact where their homelands are being taken away or destroyed, but it would not be "nice" to do anything about it...If that continues to be the case, in the future, their culture, and many of those citizens' bloodlines, will be extinguished....
Hi Morgoth, do you have any thoughts on the Social Democratic Party? They seem to address the same issues as reform, but in more sophisticated fashion. Socially right, economically left. Interestingly they put a big emphasis on home and family and culture which I don’t see from the other parties. Of course, we’re probably not voting our way out of this ;)
Another absolute belter, Morgoth. It's one that is crying out for a spoken version. I say this a fully-fledged, card-carrying, Brexit-voting Gammon bastard.
I might do a solo podcast and read through a handful of articles.
That'd be really great. In appreciation of this article, I might pop into Werherspoons at lunchtime for a quick pint of Old Bigot, to borrow one of your lines.
Haha that's an oldie.
While I was reading it I was wondering what it would sound like in a variety of voices. Middle class southern female, based long term UK resident Polish female, Yorkshire as they come male, chirpy cockney middle aged dear, southwet rural male, Welsh realist male, privately educated 30-something male, pugnacious Italian female etc
Would be an interesting experiment to show how impressions are changed by accents.
I've been to Paris multiple times over the last fifteen years or so, and have watched it degrade in real time. It's both heartbreaking and disgusting, like watching an old friend fall into the depths of drug addiction. It's a living refutation of liberal policies, as is every large European metropole, which is precisely why the cosmopolitans prefer to holiday in untouched rural idylls ... cottages in Provence are ever so much more pleasant than facing reality and asking hard questions about it.
I was appalled by Paris in 1999! Venturing south and seeing first hand what was happening before it was even really announced.
I was red pilled by reality.
My first exposure was in 2009, I think. In comparison to what came later, particularly after the 2015 migrant rush, it was still quite pleasant - if you like crowded, smelly, and rude. The architecture was nice and the girls were beautiful, though, which makes up for a lot.
On later visits, watching my liberal colleagues studiously avoid noticing the tent cities of Africans provided a certain degree of amusement.
Our little management consulting firm used to send our shitlib interns to Paris on business just to shock them out of their silly views.
A couple of weeks rubbing shoulders with the sheer muck, filth and density of Diversity that is modern Paris usually did the trick. Often the experience of Gare du Nord was enough.
However, we don’t do that anymore. Too dangerous.
I regret only that I have but one "like" to give.
Ha, and I'll treasure it good sir.
In the mainland the situation is more dire. There isn't a french or spanish or german "dissident right" with lots of articles and great voices. People are voting with their guts. They have nowhere to "cope", be it online or in public. Yet even so most people know something is wrong. The double edge sword of the Anglosphere is that it has both the biggest leftists and the most brilliant dissidents (in online terms).
Just a perspective i think everyone here should be aware of.
It's really strange how quiet the Germans and French are in terms of dissident discourse. I'm aware Eugypious has a massive substack, but by and large their online presence in terms of fostering a culture and exchange of ideas seems to be tiny. There are of course language issues, but still, who is the German or French version os, say, Sargon of Akkad or Auron Macintyre.
My point exactly. There doesn't seem to be any dissident political discourse happening outisde the mainstream in other language-spheres. And the hard truth is that many that could be "our guys" don't have a good grasp of english (especially the french). The ones that do try to bring DS content to their own countries tend to follow Anglosphone content and copy "you guys".
My guess is this battle will be entirely fought on the anglosphere, at least the intellectual part of it.
Just like music for some reason. Then again, we are the nations which wrap the power centre, so maybe we're provoked to more acute thought by plain proximity.
I´d say that that´s not entirely accurate, at least for Germany. Certainly the Anglosphere is leading online dissident discourse, with the United Kingdom being the "pound-for-pound" champion (as AA correctly observed). Dissident discourse exists within Germany, but is often entirely in German. There are only a few people who speak or write English at least some of the time. Naturally, the others have never been heard of in the Anglosphere. Eugyppius is thus an outlier in terms of language. Also, since there is a formidable German right wing party, its dealings - both within and outward-facing - soak up a lot of the dissident "discourse space".
There is a good French guy, can't remember his name, but he talks about the JQ here and how there's a French Henry Kissinger who chooses and grooms the President for the Rothschilds. Plenty of pics of him and a young Macron.
There's a decent French language dissident presence online. They were discussing remigration years before you heard of the concept in English language discourse, for example. It's just that a lot of what they discuss is specific to France or Quebec, so it won't often be translated.
Micel Houellebecq (to an extent)?
When I worked as a university academic, we were encouraged to push students into ‘Erasmus’ - the ‘European Community Action Scheme for the Mobility of Students’. This program was designed to create Polly Toynbee prototypes, sending students to study in European universities and, thus, be indoctrinated into the EU cult. Students would mix only with other like-minded students with the aim of establishing a serious soft power network. When I raised concerns about the lack of socioeconomic inclusion in the scheme - that it wasn’t sending Wayne or Debbie from the West Midlands to Linz or Brussels - I was shut down pretty fast.
The participants inevitably returned to drab old Britain declaring themselves ‘citizens of Europe’. They rarely saw the ugly realities of places they studied in. Everywhere was an Air B’n’B destination. Or Polly Toynbee’s villa. Events like Brexit or what is occurring in France must be shattering and bewildering to these fragile souls. For them, the peasants really are revolting. In the hyped and boring novel ‘Normal People’, dramatised by the BBC predictably, the female protagonist Marianne goes to Sweden via the ‘Erasmus’ program, where she ends up in a sado-masochistic bondage relationship - how European…If you ever wonder where these Europhile, Britain-hating degenerate ‘elites’ come from, the people in the QUANGO’s and the Blob, look no further. They love Europe and hate us.
Liked, but button not playing. Did you notice what sort of students were ERASMUSed? Polly Toynbee, wealthy and connected would have wafted into the Guardian and Tuscany. Do they target and "train up" youth they think will benefit and promote the global ideology/hatred of Britain or is it anyone at all? Did you notice any student defy the "training"?
It’s interesting. I noticed (and this was only my personal experience but there were a few studies that backed it up) that it wasn’t the highest performing students that went for Erasmus but more the mid-achievers. Higher achievers tended to be less keen on the relocation and disruption to their set path. Those less focused seemed to welcome it. There was definitely a lefty, progressive bias but aren’t all things at university so? I never did ‘Erasmus’ - I’m autistic and already had an inbuilt reject button for anything remotely kumbaya. However, my sister did take part in the Erasmus program and spent a year at Linz University in Austria. She came home to Belfast raving about Mozart chocolates but that was about it. She went on to vote Leave in the Brexit referendum of 2016. I guess the programming only works on those that are truly open to it!!
Aristocrats totally deracinated— or separated from their polity; their people
Brilliant analysis.
I've always been fascinated with the French "Right" after reading alot of Guillaume Faye.
They were light years ahead of the Anglo-sphere Right who were captured by hypa Individualism, Liberalism and Global Capitalism.
I still can't get my head round the mental gymnastics required to be a liberal.
To walk through a once-whyte London, Birmingham Manchester and at the end of the day still maintain diversity is our strength and it's all "enriching" etc.
Where do these people come from?
Have they always been in our society?
In the Middle Ages before mass behavioural psychology and propaganda, would they just have been ploughing the fields without an original thought in their head? Giving a weary wanderer a pint of ale in a pub?
Where DO they come from?
Are they just blank slates or true believers?
If we lived in a healthier, more right-wing society, would they be fervently patrolling the borders or burning LGBT flags?
I just can't work these people out. It's like the have these idyllic images in their head of all peoples holding hands in a circle and singing "Kumbaya, my lord" and they hold onto this despite reality punching them in the face.
Edward Dutton thinks they're mutants who would have died as babies before we had penicillin and modern health care.
My auntie, a total leftie "let them all in" type said a similar thing, she said there's so much technology to save lives at birth, maybe we're not meant to.
Pretty based thing for her to say.
So, deep down, they always side with the underdog because they feel inferior? They have a secret hatred of the West because it is (traditionally) a meritocracy.
The flaw in their logic is they wouldn't be around if it wasn't for the straight, white, male.
Considering how much they bang on about health care, it does make me wonder if those people are in fact constantly ill.
Another fine article. I think a lot of libs have their heads so far at their arses to see the complete obvious. And I would much rather sit in a Wetherspoons that has a whiff of piss than be in some effete established populated by liberal scumbags. When we win, let's build a statue for Baz and Dave.
I fully agree. My wife just can't quite get her head around my complete hatred for the (latter) kind of place you described. I think she thinks I don't really mean it 🤣. I do.
Every time we go into Belfast city centre, there's an odd (but good-natured, usually) tension in the air as we inevitably wander around some shitlib area/café/bar. I don't mind too much though, as it would be a tad cruel to inflict on her the type of place I gravitate towards.
It's a shame that there are not more places that have an Anglo aesthetic. It seems like pubs are all we have now. I would love to see our people have more spaces that are less centred on alcohol (I'm writing as someone who likes a drink, so I am by no means anti-pub).
When I were young there were many community groups - pigeon racers, garden clubs, various labour/work related groups and also the co-ops they ran for members, libraries, youth clubs and so on that were an expression of the interests, exuberance, civic spirit and sense of belonging we made around ourselves and our settlements. These sorts of groups supported our culture and nurtured its future. This sort of healthiness is sometimes called "moral confidence" but it is more than that. I am listening to LOR on tape atm and the work emphasises cultural decline and that it is nothing to be sneezed at. I liked your comment but my "like" button is not working.
Bloody hell Morgoth, that is top-drawer analysis, as usual And biting too.
Made me wince. In truth, double over with embarrassment.
Thirty years ago I was one of those EUphile types who sought “authenticity” while blithely assuming all the French I met on trips to St. Remy-de-Provence were soft-left, Guardian reading, diversity loving, LBGTQ+ allies. I was in truth precisely the type that Jeffrey Barnard described as “…insufferable cunts”.
I note the lefty philosopher John Gray has been winding up the Remainers of late by describing their view of the EU as “…entirely mystical as opposed to empirical”.
Anyway, thanks for the painful memories. No doubt it is character building in some way.
Haha I'm no stranger to idealised dreams of Europe myself.
Love those three musketeers of neoliberalism: mosques, McDonalds, and murder rates!
I’m going to steal those three M’s as a meme. They are so appropriate.
I can only comprehend it all in simplistic old school terms.
I am alright Jack, and fuck the rest of you.
I see it all as the same classist punishment, but with rainbow flags and "Bomalians" thrown in to discombobulate, inhibit, subdue and serve as extra punishment for the average Joe.
Yes, I too have noticed the massive Liberal blind-spot, which shields their awareness from the depredations of their own policies. As you said, it's incredibly ironic that their ideal vacation is to avoid their own filth, and enjoy the unspoiled fruits of supposed fascism (a word that gets distorted and misused alot, btw).
Also, I remember once coming across a Polly Toynbee article from back in the 00s, in which she was bitching and moaning about the Narnia film adaptation of that time for being so Christian, even though the books themselves were Christian. Right then I knew that she was unworthy of her venerable surname.
This article makes me think of Kronenberg 1664 advert with Eric Cantona all those (gammon, probably far right) french farmers. 😀
The native citizens of the West seem to be in a suicide pact where their homelands are being taken away or destroyed, but it would not be "nice" to do anything about it...If that continues to be the case, in the future, their culture, and many of those citizens' bloodlines, will be extinguished....
I wind them up by saying, you can live anywhere in the EU you like, if you have enough money.
Hi Morgoth, do you have any thoughts on the Social Democratic Party? They seem to address the same issues as reform, but in more sophisticated fashion. Socially right, economically left. Interestingly they put a big emphasis on home and family and culture which I don’t see from the other parties. Of course, we’re probably not voting our way out of this ;)
No I don’t know anything about them I’m afraid. I tend to not focus very much on electoral politics very much for the reason you state.