An actual dangerous idea is not that the monarchy is an out of touch symbol of an oppressive etc. patriarchy, but that it is a toothless, atrophied institution shrinking in terror from the abusive mediocrities that have wormed their way into power throughout the degenerate and decadent institutions controlling society ... and that we would all be much happier, much better off, if a more muscular monarch were to ascend the throne and cast these bought men into the stinking midden in which they belong.
For all this contempt for the kings and queens that presided over Britain's golden age - to say nothing of the royal families of the Continent - the contrast with the venal corruption and petty-minded criminality of their democratic inheritors could not be more telling. Were the monarchs of old a bit sociopathic? Sure, at times. But at least their perversions were not so pitiably small. Moreover, the image they projected, the ideal they represented, was something that encouraged everyone to hold themselves to a higher standard ... something the bureaucrats and branch managers administering the managerial state neither know how nor care to do.
It's that long since I even had a tv I'd forgotten Boyle and the rest of the so called edgy lefties still exist. Have I got News for you- remember that right on show- Sneery entitled middle class t***s. We used to think they were jabbing upwards, speaking truth to power. Then we learn they're the ones who were slowly turning pointy sticks downwards at us ordinary folk. " never done a days work in their bloody lives " my old dad used to say. Devoid of any principles they just go with the flow, wherever they can stay relevant and keep the money rolling in.
There is a line from a poem ( might be Kipling) Good people sleep soundly in their beds because strong men stand guard at the gates. It's still not safe out there so I'm going back to my book; Cattle droving: Scotland &Ireland Through Cumbria to the South.
Boyle’s a nasty misogynist. Happy to cruelly mock the biological female swimmer Rebecca Adlington - he said she had a face like a reflection on the back of a spoon..such wit. Oscar Wilde must have been losing sleep in his grave. But dare anyone mock a transvestite or point out the bleedin obvious - that practically zero of them ‘pass’ as women on the street - suddenly our Frankie comes over all gallant like Sir Galahad riding into battle to protect a fair maiden’s honour. Except they aren’t fair maidens. He has attacked the women’s activist Posie Parker on several occasions. He likes telling us biological women to shut up and bow to the men in dresses. You’re about as establishment as they come Our Frankie. Keep picking on the poor Down’s Syndrome kids Frankie - you’re good at that...
Here in the States, I remember watching the PBS series Victoria with my wife. At first it was rather banal but harmless stuff, and then they decided to make her a proto-feminist as the series progressed and threw in a homosexual relationship for good measure. This was common in the 2010's to keep this stuff out for the first season or two and then put in in when the audience is invested. Now they don't even bother and throw their garbage in your face from the first episode.
I'm a former Leftist who quit that movement over mass immigration and then subsequently became apoplectically angry at "Rotherham" once I discovered the true scale of it. For a long long time I used to rail at Leftists for their culpability and their hypocrisy. Now I just feel contempt and to some extent a kind of bafflement that they have been so stupid. I mean, deep down they all know what they've done is wrong and in the Labour party the reason they can't bring themselves to discuss this is because they know intuitively that it has wounded their organisation in ways which, in the long term, may yet terminate it permanently. They become so outraged precisely because they know what an existential threat this poses to their project.
So who in their right mind would allow such atrocities to grow to such gargantuan proportions? Putting to one side the appalling suffering of young kids - who would not see that this isn't something which can be finessed forever? And that it would mortally wound their pretentions to moral superiority?
In purely strategic terms the stupidity is epic. And as such, for people who think they are so much cleverer than everyone else, you can only feel total contempt for them.
From the Gulag to the Holodomor to the Stasi to the Killing Fields to Rotherham , Rochdale, Telford, Newcastle - they just never seem to learn.
I got tired of Frankie Boyle about two seasons into Mock the Week, though in honesty, I did find him amusing for a time.
As an American, I can't in likewise honesty offer a full-throated defense of the British monarchy or any monarchy this side of the divine. Humans endowed with or who seize power inevitably abuse it and the best hope for a happy life is to prevent, as far as is possible, having humans hold power over you.
Yet you have my sympathies, since The Week That Was on through Monty Python, the traditions of British society that gave it strength have been undermined. Now your whole country is adrift as surely as if the British Isles were a raft floating in the North Sea.
Comedy is largely dead except for a few who manage to slip past YouTube censors. Triggernometry manages to be amusing, but now when my son makes me watch one I see how careful they really are not to go too far. I lost respect for them when they failed to engage with you. To me that speaks of a high-handed pride of place I find disgusting.
My husband and I talk about how when we were young, in the late 70’s and early 80’s, whatever people were doing they would turn on Saturday Night Live, even at a party. You didn’t miss it. They parodied both sides of the aisle. Today they are about as entertaining as the evening news or CNN.
This is the nearly universal problem that "transgressive" humor has been running into for a while now. Once you've torn down all the institutions of traditional power, then poking fun at them isn't interesting or edgy. It's just boring. It'd be like watching some Israeli comedy where they make fun of rabbis or something...so what? The institution means nothing to me so poking holes in it means nothing to me.
Also, as Morgoth pointed out, they've been taking any historical or mythical figure and 'deconstructing' them for so long that it is no longer even offensive. I remember as a boy that I read a book called Parsival that deconstructed the legend, for me that was truly shocking and even made me angry. But that book was written in 1975 or so. Fast forward a half century and this incessant ruining of anything good, noble, or aspirational has made such things not even noteworthy. But as Morgoth said in his article, the left's self identity is so wrapped up in their image of themselves as the underdog that they can never acknowledge that they hold all the power. And more depressingly, they've already won the culture war.
Frankie is acting out typical Gen X nihilism. He's unfunny, frumpy and has no charisma yet has been given chances most people will never have and is still nothing but a pessimistic, negative hater biting the hand that feeds him and tearing down his own. I don't even have to look up his birthday to know which generation he is a part of, it's too obvious.
P.S. no Gen xers come at me, be honest you are like this
Ah, yes, the ever nauseating trope of the 'Edgy Leftist', of which the insufferable Boyle is one of the principal cast. I continue to be amazed that these complete mongs still buy into their own astroturfed, trite, utterly jejune bullshit. It's all been done to death, year after year, decade after decade, yet somehow they still contrive to believe they are taking big risks and sticking it to The Man. They make me puke.
South Park is about the only even-handed topical satire around nowadays. Although I watched Spike Lee's movie Bamboozled recently which is genuinely funny even though it had a satirical aim to challenge stereotypes. It's a curious movie really as it is a black version of The Producers which kind of disables its own message by making the satire creator such a pompous and out of touch character. It's definitely worth a watch and probably could sustain a deeper analysis.
An actual dangerous idea is not that the monarchy is an out of touch symbol of an oppressive etc. patriarchy, but that it is a toothless, atrophied institution shrinking in terror from the abusive mediocrities that have wormed their way into power throughout the degenerate and decadent institutions controlling society ... and that we would all be much happier, much better off, if a more muscular monarch were to ascend the throne and cast these bought men into the stinking midden in which they belong.
For all this contempt for the kings and queens that presided over Britain's golden age - to say nothing of the royal families of the Continent - the contrast with the venal corruption and petty-minded criminality of their democratic inheritors could not be more telling. Were the monarchs of old a bit sociopathic? Sure, at times. But at least their perversions were not so pitiably small. Moreover, the image they projected, the ideal they represented, was something that encouraged everyone to hold themselves to a higher standard ... something the bureaucrats and branch managers administering the managerial state neither know how nor care to do.
It's that long since I even had a tv I'd forgotten Boyle and the rest of the so called edgy lefties still exist. Have I got News for you- remember that right on show- Sneery entitled middle class t***s. We used to think they were jabbing upwards, speaking truth to power. Then we learn they're the ones who were slowly turning pointy sticks downwards at us ordinary folk. " never done a days work in their bloody lives " my old dad used to say. Devoid of any principles they just go with the flow, wherever they can stay relevant and keep the money rolling in.
There is a line from a poem ( might be Kipling) Good people sleep soundly in their beds because strong men stand guard at the gates. It's still not safe out there so I'm going back to my book; Cattle droving: Scotland &Ireland Through Cumbria to the South.
Cheers Morgoth: Strong man guarding the gate!
Boyle’s a nasty misogynist. Happy to cruelly mock the biological female swimmer Rebecca Adlington - he said she had a face like a reflection on the back of a spoon..such wit. Oscar Wilde must have been losing sleep in his grave. But dare anyone mock a transvestite or point out the bleedin obvious - that practically zero of them ‘pass’ as women on the street - suddenly our Frankie comes over all gallant like Sir Galahad riding into battle to protect a fair maiden’s honour. Except they aren’t fair maidens. He has attacked the women’s activist Posie Parker on several occasions. He likes telling us biological women to shut up and bow to the men in dresses. You’re about as establishment as they come Our Frankie. Keep picking on the poor Down’s Syndrome kids Frankie - you’re good at that...
Here in the States, I remember watching the PBS series Victoria with my wife. At first it was rather banal but harmless stuff, and then they decided to make her a proto-feminist as the series progressed and threw in a homosexual relationship for good measure. This was common in the 2010's to keep this stuff out for the first season or two and then put in in when the audience is invested. Now they don't even bother and throw their garbage in your face from the first episode.
Brilliant.
I'm a former Leftist who quit that movement over mass immigration and then subsequently became apoplectically angry at "Rotherham" once I discovered the true scale of it. For a long long time I used to rail at Leftists for their culpability and their hypocrisy. Now I just feel contempt and to some extent a kind of bafflement that they have been so stupid. I mean, deep down they all know what they've done is wrong and in the Labour party the reason they can't bring themselves to discuss this is because they know intuitively that it has wounded their organisation in ways which, in the long term, may yet terminate it permanently. They become so outraged precisely because they know what an existential threat this poses to their project.
So who in their right mind would allow such atrocities to grow to such gargantuan proportions? Putting to one side the appalling suffering of young kids - who would not see that this isn't something which can be finessed forever? And that it would mortally wound their pretentions to moral superiority?
In purely strategic terms the stupidity is epic. And as such, for people who think they are so much cleverer than everyone else, you can only feel total contempt for them.
From the Gulag to the Holodomor to the Stasi to the Killing Fields to Rotherham , Rochdale, Telford, Newcastle - they just never seem to learn.
I got tired of Frankie Boyle about two seasons into Mock the Week, though in honesty, I did find him amusing for a time.
As an American, I can't in likewise honesty offer a full-throated defense of the British monarchy or any monarchy this side of the divine. Humans endowed with or who seize power inevitably abuse it and the best hope for a happy life is to prevent, as far as is possible, having humans hold power over you.
Yet you have my sympathies, since The Week That Was on through Monty Python, the traditions of British society that gave it strength have been undermined. Now your whole country is adrift as surely as if the British Isles were a raft floating in the North Sea.
Comedy is largely dead except for a few who manage to slip past YouTube censors. Triggernometry manages to be amusing, but now when my son makes me watch one I see how careful they really are not to go too far. I lost respect for them when they failed to engage with you. To me that speaks of a high-handed pride of place I find disgusting.
My husband and I talk about how when we were young, in the late 70’s and early 80’s, whatever people were doing they would turn on Saturday Night Live, even at a party. You didn’t miss it. They parodied both sides of the aisle. Today they are about as entertaining as the evening news or CNN.
This is the nearly universal problem that "transgressive" humor has been running into for a while now. Once you've torn down all the institutions of traditional power, then poking fun at them isn't interesting or edgy. It's just boring. It'd be like watching some Israeli comedy where they make fun of rabbis or something...so what? The institution means nothing to me so poking holes in it means nothing to me.
Also, as Morgoth pointed out, they've been taking any historical or mythical figure and 'deconstructing' them for so long that it is no longer even offensive. I remember as a boy that I read a book called Parsival that deconstructed the legend, for me that was truly shocking and even made me angry. But that book was written in 1975 or so. Fast forward a half century and this incessant ruining of anything good, noble, or aspirational has made such things not even noteworthy. But as Morgoth said in his article, the left's self identity is so wrapped up in their image of themselves as the underdog that they can never acknowledge that they hold all the power. And more depressingly, they've already won the culture war.
Frankie is acting out typical Gen X nihilism. He's unfunny, frumpy and has no charisma yet has been given chances most people will never have and is still nothing but a pessimistic, negative hater biting the hand that feeds him and tearing down his own. I don't even have to look up his birthday to know which generation he is a part of, it's too obvious.
P.S. no Gen xers come at me, be honest you are like this
Ah, yes, the ever nauseating trope of the 'Edgy Leftist', of which the insufferable Boyle is one of the principal cast. I continue to be amazed that these complete mongs still buy into their own astroturfed, trite, utterly jejune bullshit. It's all been done to death, year after year, decade after decade, yet somehow they still contrive to believe they are taking big risks and sticking it to The Man. They make me puke.
Boyle bent the knee and sucked the cock off any TV producer willing to give him a bone years ago.
Shame - as there was a time when I really thought he didn’t give a shit who he offended which is what comedy should be.
South Park is about the only even-handed topical satire around nowadays. Although I watched Spike Lee's movie Bamboozled recently which is genuinely funny even though it had a satirical aim to challenge stereotypes. It's a curious movie really as it is a black version of The Producers which kind of disables its own message by making the satire creator such a pompous and out of touch character. It's definitely worth a watch and probably could sustain a deeper analysis.