I completely agree with your sentiment, I don't like the gloating. I didn't even like it when the Americans were dancing in the street when OBL was killed. It instinctively feels wrong and contemptible.
However, I can't forgive this family for their silence whilst the paradise and people she swore an oath to protect has been abused, defiled, and insulted at every turn for 70 years plus.
The royal family have never even acknowledged Rotherham, not even a whimper, yet whenever a fashionable BAME cause has been put before them they practically fall over each other to endorse it. It's just not acceptable, it is unforgivable in 2022.
I try to remain optimistic for the future though, perhaps with the final loss of this link to the England of old, we may rediscover ourselves and reassert ourselves accordingly.
As an Irish guy I’ve found this new rainbow coalition of “Irish nationalists” and third worlders from former colonies celebrating the Queens death utterly contemptible. These are the same people that didn’t make a peep when an Irish school teacher was jailed earlier this week for refusing to use some brainwashed child’s preferred pronouns.
There is something unutterably low about taking naked, animal delight in the misfortune of another. I'm reading the Aubrey-Maturin series at the moment and am struck by the "strictly business, nothing personal" nature of how the British and French officers behaved toward one another when in captivity. Wined, dined, treated as gentlemen, seldom abused. Officers would even be released from captivity on parole if they promised not to engage in actions against their captor - and these promises were kept.
The sharp division between the work of fighting and the preservation of the enemy's humanity is uniquely European. The informal Christmas peace during WWI is an example of how incredible slaughter was tempered with charity. It is a higher standard of humanity, and what man could be against higher standards? How does any dissident expect to draw allies to his banner and carry the burden of leadership if he continually demonstrates himself to be no better than a beast?
Earlier today, I commented on a YouTube video by the prolific History Debunked, that I thought it was ‘inappropriate’ to spit bile on a 96 year old dead woman, barely cold. I was then asked ‘why it was inappropriate?’ and told that ‘Joe Public would not be spared similar criticism’....possibly....One thing that is emerging, is that leftist abuse of the Queen is triggering a nationalist reaction in normies. It’s like the Queen’s death has pierced the bubble of their delusion. They can now be in no doubt as to what these ‘multi-culturalists’ really think of us. In the coming months however, I fear the Queen’s death will be used to impose a spirit of ‘pulling together for her Majesty’; any authentic spark of anger at the forces that have led the country to this dreadful place, will be extinguished.
There’s no shortage of reason to be objectionable about the queen. Her sons cosying up with Saville & Epstein. The knighting of Blair, selecting Rolf Harris to knock up your 80th birthday portrait etc.
It would be easy to pile in on the rage porn and vent the spleen but for what? Glad I read this article, it’s put things in perspective.
"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
I feel the same, I'm Irish so I don't feel particularly invested in the monarchy or the family that ruins it, but none the less I still hold it with respect as an institution and with the right people at the helm as a necessity.
While the Queen did watch as Britain desend into a shell of its former glory, I still would never laugh or gloth about her death, I feel she was the very last link we had of that old Europe, the old stock are now all truly gone. And we have now entered a very new stage of our crumbling civilization.
I agree wholeheartedly with all that you've said here mate.
I'm no fan of the royals but I've been rather shocked at people's hateful twitter posts. Ash Sarkar being one. "Right Turn Clyde" aka Finbarr o'keefe who I think is a fine historian and political scholar has been posting yt videos on this, I'd recommend a look.
I myself mentioned the "stuff upper lip" in comments recently, I meant it because it is, to me, part of what Britishness is about: facing difficult situations with stoicism and bravery, it's what my grandparents did through the war and poverty. It is the best of us. We don't scream and ululate at funerals like Arabs or (actually I better not give any other examples of behaviors I seein other racial groups).
I'm saddened not so much by the queen's death but by people's reaction, it seems these days that there's so much bare, naked hatred everywhere, particularly on social media.
I just posted elsewhere that I realise from worldwide reactions that many around the world absolutely hate us and seek to blame today's British people for colonialism/ slavery/ blah blah. The problem I see is that many of these same people want to come here or are here, that's not good for them or us.
I agree. We should be able to criticise the Queen's actions (or lack of) without gloating over her death. In a way it's nice seeing so many White people gathered together to mourn a very traditional figure head.
I'll find it very hard not to gloat over the death of certain figures who 'rubbed our noses in multiculturalism' and other antiWhite globalists, but I won't be doing so publicly.
I have never been one for the faux jingoism associated with the monarchy. It seems not to serve any interest of people who look and sound like me. I won’t make crass comments about the Queen’s demise or her son. I will keep a watching brief, noting how the system processes it all and how the many foreigners we have in Great Britain react.
I'm reminded of the feelings that went through me when Osama bin laden died. Was there a feeling of relief there, rejoicing? Yes.
That being said, I wouldn't feel the need to post to social media this. It is much easier to remain humble when one remembers that tomorrow, this could be you.
Perhaps it is best to approach it like in "The Godfather." It's just business.
I enjoyed the article and agree that it is not a good practice to spit on the graves of supposed enemies. We should be sad that those people did no good in there lives and pray that they sought salvation and forgiveness before they passed. For if they didn't, they will reap what they have sown for eternity.
Something else I wanted to mention is what I notice when speaking to my fellow average Americans. They have no respect whatsoever for the monarchies of Europe and especially the British because of "muh Independence" and "muh Freedom". However, these same people will get emotional about someone like Betty White dying last December because she was a elder stateswoman of Hollywood. They can make jokes and memes about the Queen because "there is no real reason to respect her because she's only famous from being apart of the White Hierarchy that subjected millions of POCs." But when you make fun of a dead Hollywood celebrity, they get uncomfortable and say that it's not polite to mock the dead because they liked a few movies they were in.
I completely agree with your sentiment, I don't like the gloating. I didn't even like it when the Americans were dancing in the street when OBL was killed. It instinctively feels wrong and contemptible.
However, I can't forgive this family for their silence whilst the paradise and people she swore an oath to protect has been abused, defiled, and insulted at every turn for 70 years plus.
The royal family have never even acknowledged Rotherham, not even a whimper, yet whenever a fashionable BAME cause has been put before them they practically fall over each other to endorse it. It's just not acceptable, it is unforgivable in 2022.
I try to remain optimistic for the future though, perhaps with the final loss of this link to the England of old, we may rediscover ourselves and reassert ourselves accordingly.
The Queen is dead, long live England.
As an Irish guy I’ve found this new rainbow coalition of “Irish nationalists” and third worlders from former colonies celebrating the Queens death utterly contemptible. These are the same people that didn’t make a peep when an Irish school teacher was jailed earlier this week for refusing to use some brainwashed child’s preferred pronouns.
The royal family are basically well dressed, educated and fed hostages of the British state. Who act as corporate mascots for UK plc.
To be angry at her would be like being mad at a company logo. Like shouting at a shadow.
The queen was not the hero that we wish she’d been for us, her people. But that’s not the reality we live in, it was never going to happen.
I’m not going to pretend that I’m sad or happy about the death of an old women who I didn’t know. I’m interested to see how things develop.
There is something unutterably low about taking naked, animal delight in the misfortune of another. I'm reading the Aubrey-Maturin series at the moment and am struck by the "strictly business, nothing personal" nature of how the British and French officers behaved toward one another when in captivity. Wined, dined, treated as gentlemen, seldom abused. Officers would even be released from captivity on parole if they promised not to engage in actions against their captor - and these promises were kept.
The sharp division between the work of fighting and the preservation of the enemy's humanity is uniquely European. The informal Christmas peace during WWI is an example of how incredible slaughter was tempered with charity. It is a higher standard of humanity, and what man could be against higher standards? How does any dissident expect to draw allies to his banner and carry the burden of leadership if he continually demonstrates himself to be no better than a beast?
Earlier today, I commented on a YouTube video by the prolific History Debunked, that I thought it was ‘inappropriate’ to spit bile on a 96 year old dead woman, barely cold. I was then asked ‘why it was inappropriate?’ and told that ‘Joe Public would not be spared similar criticism’....possibly....One thing that is emerging, is that leftist abuse of the Queen is triggering a nationalist reaction in normies. It’s like the Queen’s death has pierced the bubble of their delusion. They can now be in no doubt as to what these ‘multi-culturalists’ really think of us. In the coming months however, I fear the Queen’s death will be used to impose a spirit of ‘pulling together for her Majesty’; any authentic spark of anger at the forces that have led the country to this dreadful place, will be extinguished.
There’s no shortage of reason to be objectionable about the queen. Her sons cosying up with Saville & Epstein. The knighting of Blair, selecting Rolf Harris to knock up your 80th birthday portrait etc.
It would be easy to pile in on the rage porn and vent the spleen but for what? Glad I read this article, it’s put things in perspective.
Morgoth: on top form as usual.
Well put Sir.
Never speak ill of the dead.
I always default to John Donne at times like this http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/donne/meditation17.php
"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
I feel the same, I'm Irish so I don't feel particularly invested in the monarchy or the family that ruins it, but none the less I still hold it with respect as an institution and with the right people at the helm as a necessity.
While the Queen did watch as Britain desend into a shell of its former glory, I still would never laugh or gloth about her death, I feel she was the very last link we had of that old Europe, the old stock are now all truly gone. And we have now entered a very new stage of our crumbling civilization.
I agree wholeheartedly with all that you've said here mate.
I'm no fan of the royals but I've been rather shocked at people's hateful twitter posts. Ash Sarkar being one. "Right Turn Clyde" aka Finbarr o'keefe who I think is a fine historian and political scholar has been posting yt videos on this, I'd recommend a look.
I myself mentioned the "stuff upper lip" in comments recently, I meant it because it is, to me, part of what Britishness is about: facing difficult situations with stoicism and bravery, it's what my grandparents did through the war and poverty. It is the best of us. We don't scream and ululate at funerals like Arabs or (actually I better not give any other examples of behaviors I seein other racial groups).
I'm saddened not so much by the queen's death but by people's reaction, it seems these days that there's so much bare, naked hatred everywhere, particularly on social media.
I just posted elsewhere that I realise from worldwide reactions that many around the world absolutely hate us and seek to blame today's British people for colonialism/ slavery/ blah blah. The problem I see is that many of these same people want to come here or are here, that's not good for them or us.
I agree. We should be able to criticise the Queen's actions (or lack of) without gloating over her death. In a way it's nice seeing so many White people gathered together to mourn a very traditional figure head.
I'll find it very hard not to gloat over the death of certain figures who 'rubbed our noses in multiculturalism' and other antiWhite globalists, but I won't be doing so publicly.
I have never been one for the faux jingoism associated with the monarchy. It seems not to serve any interest of people who look and sound like me. I won’t make crass comments about the Queen’s demise or her son. I will keep a watching brief, noting how the system processes it all and how the many foreigners we have in Great Britain react.
I'm reminded of the feelings that went through me when Osama bin laden died. Was there a feeling of relief there, rejoicing? Yes.
That being said, I wouldn't feel the need to post to social media this. It is much easier to remain humble when one remembers that tomorrow, this could be you.
Perhaps it is best to approach it like in "The Godfather." It's just business.
Well said, sir.
I enjoyed the article and agree that it is not a good practice to spit on the graves of supposed enemies. We should be sad that those people did no good in there lives and pray that they sought salvation and forgiveness before they passed. For if they didn't, they will reap what they have sown for eternity.
Something else I wanted to mention is what I notice when speaking to my fellow average Americans. They have no respect whatsoever for the monarchies of Europe and especially the British because of "muh Independence" and "muh Freedom". However, these same people will get emotional about someone like Betty White dying last December because she was a elder stateswoman of Hollywood. They can make jokes and memes about the Queen because "there is no real reason to respect her because she's only famous from being apart of the White Hierarchy that subjected millions of POCs." But when you make fun of a dead Hollywood celebrity, they get uncomfortable and say that it's not polite to mock the dead because they liked a few movies they were in.