Just starting listening to this and was struck by what you said about the vet being better than the medical service humans get. Our vet is a little more disorganized than you describe, but the building is drop dead gorgeous in national park lodge style, the vets are extremely competent and sensitive to the animals in a way we humans can only dream of. There is a lot to unpack in that.
Outside of some of the cigar streams with Mr Dee, this series is by far the best content AA makes. Listened to them all in work. Dream combo when you’re involved.
This was a really fascinating talk and I am anxiously looking forward to the next part. How we got here, to this place where people seem to have forgotten everything that previously mattered most and made life worth living, is an obsession of mine. The more I learn the more it seems like we were on rails to end up like this, at least since the aftermath of WWII. That a series of discredited ideas- a paranoid schizophrenic declaring that everyone is out to get everyone else, a psychiatrist with a nightmarish family life discounting the idea of a happy, unselfish family even existing, these should’ve been rejected out of hand as being at odds with the observable world as most people have experienced and written about it for centuries past. That most of us are forced to live abnormally because men with abnormal ideas managed to form unholy alliances with power and the zeitgeist as power allows it to take form is maddening but bolstered by so much evidence.
Love, loyalty, honor, responsibility, respectability, all the things that made the struggle that was most men’s lives worthwhile have been stripped away as if by magic to be replaced by the freedom of the villlage idiot. Just a phenomenal discussion of extremely important origins of destructive ideas.
Thanks. I've long been a fan of Curtis and when asked I chose this one because it seems to be so pivotal to how things are. That said, it does build on Century of the Self and other works that are well worth watching.
I have seen most of century of the self, which is fascinating. The three way discussion adds a lot of depth, especially since each of you has a different “voice”, different opinions and concerns and find different correlations.
2H51mins, Morgoth's point on the descent to the infantile "our NHS". Glad he has pointed that out, the overt manipulation of the phrase makes my skin crawl.
The Trap's iconic tableau is the heartrending expression of the woman sitting in a kitchen during the titles. That face speaks a thousand words. She is us all!
Another excellent instalment in the series. Particularly impressive was you correctly identifying the connection between one of the tunes and Xenon 2. That would have been about the only insight I could have offered!
Having such a group of intellectual heavy-weights discuss this documentary has got to be one of the absolute high points of discussion in "our circles" (or anywhere, frankly). Thank you all! Please let us have more of this kind of conversation.
During this fall of European civilization pets are effectively a replacement for people's children which is utterly dysfunctional. The true purpose of pets would be for children to learn the value of setting aside their own needs for the needs of their pet, and in so doing ensure learning to become an adult and learn patience. Pets are also useful to help pre-occupy children which takes the parenting load off parents since pets pre-occupy children and to a lesser degree even toddlers and babies. Pets are also useful to elderly people to keep them active and less lonely especially elderly people who are widows or widowers.
Pets are not a replacement for friends or a partner for single adults. Keeping pets as a single adult is unhealthy and inhibits single people's desire to seek out friends or a partner. Pets are also a huge unnecessary expense for a young adult who likely isn't as well off as they think they are. Pets should not have crazy amounts of money spent on them, and they shouldn't have surgeries to keep them alive if they get sick. Pets should not be a burden of time or money for a family but serve the family and not the family serving the pet. Pets should be allowed to die as nature intended, and thus remind us all of the cycle of life especially children.
One of the major problems facing European civilization is prideful surety that anything people want to do can be achieved, and this is simply not true. There are seasons, cycles, and only so much time in each day to accomplish things. Emphasis, resources, or time spent into one thing will reduce from other pursuits in life like mentoring other people to maintain community and finding a partner to have and raise children with. The wiser but less materially wealthy people of pre-industrial European civilization understood that life comes with limitations, and is best lived like a waltz rather than a mad dash to get or experience everything you think you need before you die. Ultimately, we are just vessels for our ancestral memory and our genetics. We exist for a short time to learn how to provide for ourselves, find a partner, have children, and then finally to instill our knowledge, resources, and wisdom into our children. Nothing else really matters in life since we will all die eventually. Only the next generation remains, and this is why too much care for pets or even the elderly is dysfunctional and perpetuating the decline of European civilization. Reemphasis on the young is what will halt and reverse the decline of European civilization.
Just starting listening to this and was struck by what you said about the vet being better than the medical service humans get. Our vet is a little more disorganized than you describe, but the building is drop dead gorgeous in national park lodge style, the vets are extremely competent and sensitive to the animals in a way we humans can only dream of. There is a lot to unpack in that.
Outside of some of the cigar streams with Mr Dee, this series is by far the best content AA makes. Listened to them all in work. Dream combo when you’re involved.
This was a really fascinating talk and I am anxiously looking forward to the next part. How we got here, to this place where people seem to have forgotten everything that previously mattered most and made life worth living, is an obsession of mine. The more I learn the more it seems like we were on rails to end up like this, at least since the aftermath of WWII. That a series of discredited ideas- a paranoid schizophrenic declaring that everyone is out to get everyone else, a psychiatrist with a nightmarish family life discounting the idea of a happy, unselfish family even existing, these should’ve been rejected out of hand as being at odds with the observable world as most people have experienced and written about it for centuries past. That most of us are forced to live abnormally because men with abnormal ideas managed to form unholy alliances with power and the zeitgeist as power allows it to take form is maddening but bolstered by so much evidence.
Love, loyalty, honor, responsibility, respectability, all the things that made the struggle that was most men’s lives worthwhile have been stripped away as if by magic to be replaced by the freedom of the villlage idiot. Just a phenomenal discussion of extremely important origins of destructive ideas.
Thanks. I've long been a fan of Curtis and when asked I chose this one because it seems to be so pivotal to how things are. That said, it does build on Century of the Self and other works that are well worth watching.
I have seen most of century of the self, which is fascinating. The three way discussion adds a lot of depth, especially since each of you has a different “voice”, different opinions and concerns and find different correlations.
2H51mins, Morgoth's point on the descent to the infantile "our NHS". Glad he has pointed that out, the overt manipulation of the phrase makes my skin crawl.
OOGA BOOGA FRENS, looking forward for your appearance with Mr. AA and Mr S.Roberts, Gods Blessing to your and yours Morgoth.
I swear I hear John Carpenter's Assault On Precinct 13 at 2:09:00... am I right?
Hah I just paused the video to make this comment and got my answer after I went back and hit play. Good times people. 😁
Great stream!
The Trap's iconic tableau is the heartrending expression of the woman sitting in a kitchen during the titles. That face speaks a thousand words. She is us all!
Another excellent instalment in the series. Particularly impressive was you correctly identifying the connection between one of the tunes and Xenon 2. That would have been about the only insight I could have offered!
Having such a group of intellectual heavy-weights discuss this documentary has got to be one of the absolute high points of discussion in "our circles" (or anywhere, frankly). Thank you all! Please let us have more of this kind of conversation.
This is one of three.
Thank you! I am looking forward to the next two (and have yet to complete this one).
Thanks, Morgoth. I consider this Curtis' finest and most topical work. I'm curious to hear your views on it.
During this fall of European civilization pets are effectively a replacement for people's children which is utterly dysfunctional. The true purpose of pets would be for children to learn the value of setting aside their own needs for the needs of their pet, and in so doing ensure learning to become an adult and learn patience. Pets are also useful to help pre-occupy children which takes the parenting load off parents since pets pre-occupy children and to a lesser degree even toddlers and babies. Pets are also useful to elderly people to keep them active and less lonely especially elderly people who are widows or widowers.
Pets are not a replacement for friends or a partner for single adults. Keeping pets as a single adult is unhealthy and inhibits single people's desire to seek out friends or a partner. Pets are also a huge unnecessary expense for a young adult who likely isn't as well off as they think they are. Pets should not have crazy amounts of money spent on them, and they shouldn't have surgeries to keep them alive if they get sick. Pets should not be a burden of time or money for a family but serve the family and not the family serving the pet. Pets should be allowed to die as nature intended, and thus remind us all of the cycle of life especially children.
One of the major problems facing European civilization is prideful surety that anything people want to do can be achieved, and this is simply not true. There are seasons, cycles, and only so much time in each day to accomplish things. Emphasis, resources, or time spent into one thing will reduce from other pursuits in life like mentoring other people to maintain community and finding a partner to have and raise children with. The wiser but less materially wealthy people of pre-industrial European civilization understood that life comes with limitations, and is best lived like a waltz rather than a mad dash to get or experience everything you think you need before you die. Ultimately, we are just vessels for our ancestral memory and our genetics. We exist for a short time to learn how to provide for ourselves, find a partner, have children, and then finally to instill our knowledge, resources, and wisdom into our children. Nothing else really matters in life since we will all die eventually. Only the next generation remains, and this is why too much care for pets or even the elderly is dysfunctional and perpetuating the decline of European civilization. Reemphasis on the young is what will halt and reverse the decline of European civilization.