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John Carter's avatar

The NMPB position is analogous to the posture of Achilles in Iliad, when he refused to fight, choosing to stay in his tent because Agamemnon had stolen Briseis from him. Basically, he went on strike. That's essentially what we're doing: we refuse to support a system that holds us in open contempt and refuses to give us our due.

Given the recruiting problems in the woke US armed forces, this isn't only an attitude taken by internet edgelords. The sentiment of, fuck your wars, fuck your society, we're happy to let it all burn, is a widespread one. The elite have painted themselves into an untenable narrative corner. They have no legitimacy whatsoever with conservative whites, but they stand at the helm of a white supremacist patriarchy (according to them) and therefore their legitimacy is also shaky at best with the left. They can rent loyalty as long as the money lasts, but the fealty of mercenaries is notoriously fickle, and they've nothing else to rely upon as they've destroyed any basis for organic loyalty.

But as you say, foreign adversaries may in fact be worse. So wat do?

I say, for now, not a damn thing. Or, more accurately: just what we've been continuing to do. Refuse to support people who hate us. Let the elite continue to bleed legitimacy. Make it clear that if they are to have our participation, there will be concessions. Right now it's a choice between destruction and destruction, so until we're offered something better, there's not much motivation to support anyone.

Personally, I tend to suspect that the elite have gotten very high on their own supply and will not make any concessions. I also suspect that their lack of legitimacy is going to bring them down sooner rather than later. The replacement will be some combination of impatient tech bros (Elon et al), populist firebrands (JD Vance etc), an intellectual vanguard provided by the cream of the very online commentariat, and possibly a helping hand provided by ambitious and disaffected military officers. There's enormous discontent bubbling under the surface right now, and as things get worse, which they definitely will, people are going to start being a lot more open to alternatives.

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KlarkashTon's avatar

I have two observations:

Firstly, Mr. Morgoth, you are not an average guy and there is no use pretending that you are. Period.

Secondly, the last few years have shown very clearly, at least to me, that there is no point whatsoever in trying to negotiate any kind of "arrangement" with whoever is in power in the West right now. There simply is no good faith to be had from them. Most external factions have at least not conclusively demonstrated, with the same certainty, that they cannot be negotiated with. I think we should keep that in mind.

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