Mike from Imperium Press posted this to his Telegram:
''Morgoth's Substack article looks to the pragmatic centrist as the Caesar figure most likely to emerge in the winter of the West. Probably he's right.
Pragmatic centrism is better than anarcho-tyranny, but it's still a losing proposition. Pragmatic centrism tries to right a doomed ship rather than man the lifeboats.
After those Caesars have themselves been exhausted we will see something like "radical pragmatism". It sounds like a contradiction, but these hard-headed, radical realists have appeared at the end of cycles throughout history—the Germanic kings on the edge of the empire, the nomarchs of late Old Kingdom Egypt, the early Shang dynasty, etc. They're the ones who inherit the earth.''
Fantastic article once again (as if it needs to be said).
The red pill rabbit-hole leads inexorably toward the black pill realisation that the liberalism (and Americanism) that we were all raised on was itself a fiction forced upon us and was merely a watered down, or honeyed-up, version of what we see today. The emergence of an extremely uncomfortable awareness - that we are, and have always been, at war - forces one to reconsider all priors. Everything that I, for one, have always taken for granted must be reevaluated from the perspective of a conquered people.
To veer slightly off topic, I rememeber as a teenager consuming all sorts of dystopian fiction (Nineteen Eighty-Four was and still is an absolute favourite) and sort of wishing for the thrill of existing in that horrifying reality. How much more exciting would life be when lived in secret opposition to a tyrannical and oppressive regime? From which memory I take two lessons: 1. Be careful what you wish for, and 2. Never trust that anyone is coming to save you.
I believe that society will continue to fracture along the lines of those who comply and those of us who can still find it within ourselves to say "No."
As the Russian high command is illustrating by ceding Kharkov and Kherson territory to shape the battlefield into solid defensive lines while preparing an effective counter offensive, aiding a return to the Classically Liberal position of the 80's/90's (by at the least not fighting against it) could reshape the political battlefield in the West, allowing a renewed offensive of the Right from a stronger position than it currently holds. The populous has experienced the inherent consequences of the Liberal fault lines plus the excesses of the Left, and could be more easily persuaded of the solutions offered by the Right.
Superb article. Brett Weinstein and Heather Heyer remind me of the old hippies I met on the anti-lockdown protests, which reached their zenith one year ago in here in authoritarian hell-hole Australia. For that brief moment liberals and right-wingers came together. It soon dissipated. As you rightly point out Morgoth, abortion is the loose hypodermic needle. Here in Victoria, we have the abomination of full-term abortions, thanks to everyone’s least favourite tyrant Dan Andrews (as Health Minister he instituted an extension to the murder of the unborn child). The old hippies I protested with a year ago, will be voting for left-leaning independents in the Victorian State election this Saturday. There is great hope that Andrews may be deposed by losing his constituency seat, but his party will hold on to power in the State in a coalition ultimately. So nothing changes - liberalism prevails. Meet the new boss, just the same as the old boss....
I want to see a pharmaceutical-like commercial for people who "suffer from mild censorship.' Cue montage of Brett and his wife looking out the window on a rainy day and eventually walking in the park due to a dose of their own liberal delusions Also, Bob's art reminds me of Bosch.
Of all the dissidents I read, your writing's got actual style Morgoth.
Brilliant piece. Classical liberalism contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction, a truth that Bret and Heather are suffering the consequences of, however they sadly think that liberalism is the cure to the ailments of America; rather than the cause, and so the prescription does not cure but kills the patient, thus the death of the West.
I started reading this article without seeing who the author was. > I thought > jeepers this is good > look at this writer getting right to the reality of liberalism >>" who is this writer ? wait on >> ohhh right
it' s Morgoth one of the finest intellectuals in the United Kingdom > the first person whose voice some years ago dragged me from the progressive madness of New Zealand towards sanity and belief in ourselves
Excellent article. But are the trappings of "Pragmatic Classical Liberalism" as provided by a Caesar really such a bleak outlook? Compared to the current situation and Bob Moran´s nightmare vision of the future, I feel positively joyous about such a scenario.
“….from where will the oppositional force to this dystopia emerge? When looked at objectively it will be whoever pledges to hold the tyranny at bay. It will inevitably be people who believe in ‘‘rights’’ and the norms of Western Liberalism, whether the Dissident Right likes it or not.“
I’m reading Morgoth’s Review on Thanksgiving morning ultimately because of the indignation I’ve felt over the erosion of free speech for about the past decade. Not sure what that means or whether that makes me a “liberal” or whatever, but I value what I value and I want ourguys to win and be in charge. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Weinstein's video with Scottish gentile Neil Oliver contains, for my money, one of the most powerful anti-vax testimonies recorded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Gh_X1ycB8
Great article as usual, Morgs. It's certainly better than the GAE, but there's still something profoundly sad and dispiriting in the eternal compromise. Who knows, perhaps in all the chaos and confusion we might be able to carve out a small piece of England for ourselves?
Although Musk is never going to touch the JQ, it appears the globohomo retarded left are getting increasingly worried about a shift in narrative or at least some counterbalance to their narrative being permitted to form. I get the impression he delights in fucking with people and a lot of his actions are to feed this peccadillo rather than serve any political preference or motivation.
On top of that, I have the sense he could turn on a sixpence.
Thanks for turning me on to the Horus Heresy Morgy, I'm already on book 5. But why oh why did they have to make the hero "Saul Tarvitz"? Thousands of years in the future and still no escape...
Very interesting, one really needs Spengler to correctly apply neo-monarchism outside of the vacuum in which it’s usually found. How do you think Socialism, the west’s religious tendency, fits into a classical liberal empire? Just an ossification of Great Society era stuff without the inflammatory rhetoric?
Since anything seems better than the current state of things, part of us wants Caesarism to arrive simply in recognition of 'we can't go on like this'. I suspect there is always something centrist about all of Spengler's Caesars however, at least in their public image.
Really I came here to comment that the term 'normative' is misused here as it so often is. It is not a posh synonym for 'normal'. 'Normal' means unexceptional states of things, which is what was intended here. 'Normative' means statements and perspectives which are not descriptive but evaluative, particularly with respect to norms. 'Normal' juxtaposes 'exceptional'. 'Normative' juxtaposes 'descriptive'. Thank you for your time.
Mike from Imperium Press posted this to his Telegram:
''Morgoth's Substack article looks to the pragmatic centrist as the Caesar figure most likely to emerge in the winter of the West. Probably he's right.
Pragmatic centrism is better than anarcho-tyranny, but it's still a losing proposition. Pragmatic centrism tries to right a doomed ship rather than man the lifeboats.
After those Caesars have themselves been exhausted we will see something like "radical pragmatism". It sounds like a contradiction, but these hard-headed, radical realists have appeared at the end of cycles throughout history—the Germanic kings on the edge of the empire, the nomarchs of late Old Kingdom Egypt, the early Shang dynasty, etc. They're the ones who inherit the earth.''
Fantastic article once again (as if it needs to be said).
The red pill rabbit-hole leads inexorably toward the black pill realisation that the liberalism (and Americanism) that we were all raised on was itself a fiction forced upon us and was merely a watered down, or honeyed-up, version of what we see today. The emergence of an extremely uncomfortable awareness - that we are, and have always been, at war - forces one to reconsider all priors. Everything that I, for one, have always taken for granted must be reevaluated from the perspective of a conquered people.
To veer slightly off topic, I rememeber as a teenager consuming all sorts of dystopian fiction (Nineteen Eighty-Four was and still is an absolute favourite) and sort of wishing for the thrill of existing in that horrifying reality. How much more exciting would life be when lived in secret opposition to a tyrannical and oppressive regime? From which memory I take two lessons: 1. Be careful what you wish for, and 2. Never trust that anyone is coming to save you.
I believe that society will continue to fracture along the lines of those who comply and those of us who can still find it within ourselves to say "No."
As the Russian high command is illustrating by ceding Kharkov and Kherson territory to shape the battlefield into solid defensive lines while preparing an effective counter offensive, aiding a return to the Classically Liberal position of the 80's/90's (by at the least not fighting against it) could reshape the political battlefield in the West, allowing a renewed offensive of the Right from a stronger position than it currently holds. The populous has experienced the inherent consequences of the Liberal fault lines plus the excesses of the Left, and could be more easily persuaded of the solutions offered by the Right.
Superb article. Brett Weinstein and Heather Heyer remind me of the old hippies I met on the anti-lockdown protests, which reached their zenith one year ago in here in authoritarian hell-hole Australia. For that brief moment liberals and right-wingers came together. It soon dissipated. As you rightly point out Morgoth, abortion is the loose hypodermic needle. Here in Victoria, we have the abomination of full-term abortions, thanks to everyone’s least favourite tyrant Dan Andrews (as Health Minister he instituted an extension to the murder of the unborn child). The old hippies I protested with a year ago, will be voting for left-leaning independents in the Victorian State election this Saturday. There is great hope that Andrews may be deposed by losing his constituency seat, but his party will hold on to power in the State in a coalition ultimately. So nothing changes - liberalism prevails. Meet the new boss, just the same as the old boss....
I want to see a pharmaceutical-like commercial for people who "suffer from mild censorship.' Cue montage of Brett and his wife looking out the window on a rainy day and eventually walking in the park due to a dose of their own liberal delusions Also, Bob's art reminds me of Bosch.
Of all the dissidents I read, your writing's got actual style Morgoth.
Brilliant piece. Classical liberalism contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction, a truth that Bret and Heather are suffering the consequences of, however they sadly think that liberalism is the cure to the ailments of America; rather than the cause, and so the prescription does not cure but kills the patient, thus the death of the West.
I started reading this article without seeing who the author was. > I thought > jeepers this is good > look at this writer getting right to the reality of liberalism >>" who is this writer ? wait on >> ohhh right
it' s Morgoth one of the finest intellectuals in the United Kingdom > the first person whose voice some years ago dragged me from the progressive madness of New Zealand towards sanity and belief in ourselves
I think we will soon see the parasite class get bored with messing with the normies and start on each other.
Excellent article. But are the trappings of "Pragmatic Classical Liberalism" as provided by a Caesar really such a bleak outlook? Compared to the current situation and Bob Moran´s nightmare vision of the future, I feel positively joyous about such a scenario.
“….from where will the oppositional force to this dystopia emerge? When looked at objectively it will be whoever pledges to hold the tyranny at bay. It will inevitably be people who believe in ‘‘rights’’ and the norms of Western Liberalism, whether the Dissident Right likes it or not.“
I’m reading Morgoth’s Review on Thanksgiving morning ultimately because of the indignation I’ve felt over the erosion of free speech for about the past decade. Not sure what that means or whether that makes me a “liberal” or whatever, but I value what I value and I want ourguys to win and be in charge. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Weinstein's video with Scottish gentile Neil Oliver contains, for my money, one of the most powerful anti-vax testimonies recorded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Gh_X1ycB8
*looks up what reified means*
Totes.
Great article as usual, Morgs. It's certainly better than the GAE, but there's still something profoundly sad and dispiriting in the eternal compromise. Who knows, perhaps in all the chaos and confusion we might be able to carve out a small piece of England for ourselves?
Although Musk is never going to touch the JQ, it appears the globohomo retarded left are getting increasingly worried about a shift in narrative or at least some counterbalance to their narrative being permitted to form. I get the impression he delights in fucking with people and a lot of his actions are to feed this peccadillo rather than serve any political preference or motivation.
On top of that, I have the sense he could turn on a sixpence.
Thanks for turning me on to the Horus Heresy Morgy, I'm already on book 5. But why oh why did they have to make the hero "Saul Tarvitz"? Thousands of years in the future and still no escape...
Very interesting, one really needs Spengler to correctly apply neo-monarchism outside of the vacuum in which it’s usually found. How do you think Socialism, the west’s religious tendency, fits into a classical liberal empire? Just an ossification of Great Society era stuff without the inflammatory rhetoric?
Since anything seems better than the current state of things, part of us wants Caesarism to arrive simply in recognition of 'we can't go on like this'. I suspect there is always something centrist about all of Spengler's Caesars however, at least in their public image.
Really I came here to comment that the term 'normative' is misused here as it so often is. It is not a posh synonym for 'normal'. 'Normal' means unexceptional states of things, which is what was intended here. 'Normative' means statements and perspectives which are not descriptive but evaluative, particularly with respect to norms. 'Normal' juxtaposes 'exceptional'. 'Normative' juxtaposes 'descriptive'. Thank you for your time.