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Mike from Imperium Press posted this to his Telegram:

''Morgoth's Substack article looks to the pragmatic centrist as the Caesar figure most likely to emerge in the winter of the West. Probably he's right.

Pragmatic centrism is better than anarcho-tyranny, but it's still a losing proposition. Pragmatic centrism tries to right a doomed ship rather than man the lifeboats.

After those Caesars have themselves been exhausted we will see something like "radical pragmatism". It sounds like a contradiction, but these hard-headed, radical realists have appeared at the end of cycles throughout history—the Germanic kings on the edge of the empire, the nomarchs of late Old Kingdom Egypt, the early Shang dynasty, etc. They're the ones who inherit the earth.''

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This made me think of the movie, The Big Short, and of course the 2008 crash the movie was based upon.

The radical pragmatists were Michael Burry, Mark Baum, Jared Vennett, Jamie Shipley and Charlie Geller. They all became rich by essentially shorting the US housing market, which they realised was based on loans given to people who could not afford the payments.

Their strategy was certainly radical and for a long time they were the laughing stock of Wall Street. But they had looked at the data, while everybody else could not conceive of something happening that had never happened before.

When pole-dancing girls could get no-deposit adjustable-rate mortgages on several properties at once, because the big banks were under so much pressure to fill the tranches of their mortgage bonds that they would give credit to just about any American deadbeat with a pulse, catastrophe was inevitable. The pragmatists knew this - knew that they were the only sane individuals left.

They were eventually proved right, but by then most had paid a heavy personal price for their heresy and by and large the people in their circle were in no mood to mend fences once the house of cards came crashing down as they had predicted.

It will probably be the same for us, so let's make sure we are in a position to seize power and hold onto it. We need stout men who can lead and who don't care about being popular. Let God and history judge them.

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Fantastic article once again (as if it needs to be said).

The red pill rabbit-hole leads inexorably toward the black pill realisation that the liberalism (and Americanism) that we were all raised on was itself a fiction forced upon us and was merely a watered down, or honeyed-up, version of what we see today. The emergence of an extremely uncomfortable awareness - that we are, and have always been, at war - forces one to reconsider all priors. Everything that I, for one, have always taken for granted must be reevaluated from the perspective of a conquered people.

To veer slightly off topic, I rememeber as a teenager consuming all sorts of dystopian fiction (Nineteen Eighty-Four was and still is an absolute favourite) and sort of wishing for the thrill of existing in that horrifying reality. How much more exciting would life be when lived in secret opposition to a tyrannical and oppressive regime? From which memory I take two lessons: 1. Be careful what you wish for, and 2. Never trust that anyone is coming to save you.

I believe that society will continue to fracture along the lines of those who comply and those of us who can still find it within ourselves to say "No."

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As the Russian high command is illustrating by ceding Kharkov and Kherson territory to shape the battlefield into solid defensive lines while preparing an effective counter offensive, aiding a return to the Classically Liberal position of the 80's/90's (by at the least not fighting against it) could reshape the political battlefield in the West, allowing a renewed offensive of the Right from a stronger position than it currently holds. The populous has experienced the inherent consequences of the Liberal fault lines plus the excesses of the Left, and could be more easily persuaded of the solutions offered by the Right.

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Superb article. Brett Weinstein and Heather Heyer remind me of the old hippies I met on the anti-lockdown protests, which reached their zenith one year ago in here in authoritarian hell-hole Australia. For that brief moment liberals and right-wingers came together. It soon dissipated. As you rightly point out Morgoth, abortion is the loose hypodermic needle. Here in Victoria, we have the abomination of full-term abortions, thanks to everyone’s least favourite tyrant Dan Andrews (as Health Minister he instituted an extension to the murder of the unborn child). The old hippies I protested with a year ago, will be voting for left-leaning independents in the Victorian State election this Saturday. There is great hope that Andrews may be deposed by losing his constituency seat, but his party will hold on to power in the State in a coalition ultimately. So nothing changes - liberalism prevails. Meet the new boss, just the same as the old boss....

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The right has made the mistake of accepting that a case can be made for abortion, in some instances. This created a fissure that the left was always going to prise open.

Consider the following 2 statements...

The lives of innocents are sanctified.

No woman should give birth to a child that she does not want.

Which of those carries real gravitas? Of course, it is the first. No woman should give birth to a child she does not want, but the lives of innocents are sanctified and so sometimes she must.

Let's take this to its logical extreme. A woman is raped by a man who has just killed her family in cold blood, right before her eyes. Surely, under these circumstances, common decency, empathy and compassion should lead us to support her decision to terminate the pregnancy?

The answer is no, because the lives of innocents are sanctified and to society as a whole this is far more important than the difficulties faced by a single individual - no matter how awful the situation is.

If our society were a great ship, then the misery inflicted on this woman is just a small piece of debris in its path that will bounce harmlessly off the hull. But if the lives of innocents are no longer sanctified, then the ship and all of its lifeboats are holed. It will sink. Everybody will drown, including the woman.

Morgoth, I would love to see you and Endeavour come up with a new basic constitution for our people, regardless of their nationality. Just a few statements that would give us a foundation to build a society that actually works upon. The rest of us can chip in with comments and suggestions, but I would like to see what you two finally decide upon.

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The problem is I don't have a grounding belief to place a set of values on, my general view though is that I'd adhere to Christian ethics, indeed I do so gladly.

It is the secular world which is caught out by such questions, and in the end descends into Malthusianism and Utilitarian number crunching.

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Given your article is about a possible return to Liberalism despite its inherent fault lines and (by implication) the risk that those fault lines will be again exploited to our cost, I'm puzzled by your willingness to "adhere to Christian ethics" given that Christianity has equally exploited fault lines; to the point where it has almost collapsed in the West.

How is a return to mass belief in Christianity post 2022 (assuming that is possible) not going to be subverted again?

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Because there's nothing else. If the problem is a one of a constitution that's not hard, simply ground it in the health and well-being of the native ethnic group.

But that doesn't solve what, in the end, is a crisis of meaning, it'd still just be a set of laws written by men.

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With regard to ethnic North West European people, I think there is something else. A source of meaning that comes from us and our place in the world over time. A source of meaning that has often been expressed through words written by men, and occasionally through video's by a man walking his dog through his homeland.

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Beautifully put. The lives of innocents are sanctified. For those of us with a traditional religious faith, abortion is clearly a sin. I grew up in Northern Ireland at a time when there was no abortion available anywhere on the island of Ireland. There was no huge public demand for it, until it was astro-turfed (by the globalists who’d taken over Eire) in 2017. Suddenly the Irish were convinced that they’d always wanted abortion on demand. Now, nothing is off limits in Eire and that ship is truly sinking...

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Yes, the pace of descent is truly shocking. But abortion becoming legal on the Isle of Ireland, for me at least, is just a symptom of a wider malady. The only reason that powerful people made it so was that their primary objective had already been achieved. They had convinced the Irish people that they didn't really believe in God, anymore.

Once you have done that to them, you can do whatever you like because literally everything is up for grabs. Of course, in mainland Britain, the situation is even worse as we are already much further down the road.

My parents are both very gullible, but at heart I believe them to be good people. They have been led to believe that God does not exist however and (crucially) that they have figured this out themselves, rather than been encouraged into reaching that conclusion.

As I have grown older, I've realised that they don't actually have any firm principles at all. All they really know is that they must stay alive as long as possible and that death is something to be feared. All atheists seem terrified of dying, despite their apparent conviction that death is a full stop - the end.

What gives me hope is that, at their core, something keeps gnawing away at them over their lack of faith. Hope that, despite doing one heck of a job on them, the powerful have only superficially turned so many humans against the idea of God. If they were entirely at peace with their atheism, why fear death at all? In fact, why be afraid of anything?

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So interested to read about your parents. They sound like many people of that generation. Well-meaning and decent but utterly saturated in the mindset of what Academic Agent refers to as ‘the boomer truth regime’ - the set of beliefs instilled in Western nation by liberal governments post World War 2. Generations of people had applied behavioural psychology worked upon them by government ‘nudge departments’ as they’re now known - how else would individuals have so readily surrendered their rights and liberties during Covid? For those of us who can see it, it is horrifying. I’m in Australia, in a city where the worst of the Covid tyranny took place..it shook me to the core and made me question my own sanity at times...I too have noticed how atheists seem terrified of dying! They all seem to want to live forever, whilst euthanising others or murdering the unborn child...what a time to be alive...

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My parents grew up in a high-trust society and so their confidence in government, institutions (especially the BBC and NHS) and fellow human beings was set in stone by the time they started secondary school. It was the same for most lower-middle class people who did not live in the big cities, I think.

My mother just catches bits of the news and responds emotionally, as you might expect. My father is significantly smarter than her, but even he lacks curiosity these days. I think it's because any time he digs he finds evidence that counters his liberal world view and that encourages him to stop. He just wants to talk about sport, but of course sport is mainly about identity politics these days anyway so even that causes contention.

He was part of an anarchist movement, when studying at university in the late 60s. At one point, they were allowed to occupy a building linked to British colonialism for several days while being granted access to the world's media. He and his friends were being used, just as the rainbow warriors of today's student body are, but he still likes to think of himself as somebody subversive that MI5 will have kept tabs on! Of course, any university student is already working for the government to some degree.

Both my parents became teachers. My father quit his role at a rural polytechnic college around 15 years ago because the nonsense was even then becoming unbearable, but government policy in higher education actually affected him unlike their wider social policy which he could choose to ignore as it generally did not.

Who, in their 70s, would want to accept that they have basically been wrong about everything important their whole life though? As bad as his Boomer generation is, my Gen X one is far worse. His at least were competent at their work, highly conscientious and confident enough to become parents in their early 20s as I think we all should be. They became adults.

I'm 50 and most people my age still look, dress, talk and walk like unhappy teenagers struck by a premature aging disease. That's how they'll die, mostly alone too. Plenty already have, leaving no legacy - genetic or otherwise.

Now that the curse is come upon us all I would love to read about your family, LadyofShalott, if you are able to take time out from the loom!

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I want to see a pharmaceutical-like commercial for people who "suffer from mild censorship.' Cue montage of Brett and his wife looking out the window on a rainy day and eventually walking in the park due to a dose of their own liberal delusions Also, Bob's art reminds me of Bosch.

Of all the dissidents I read, your writing's got actual style Morgoth.

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Thanks!

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Brilliant piece. Classical liberalism contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction, a truth that Bret and Heather are suffering the consequences of, however they sadly think that liberalism is the cure to the ailments of America; rather than the cause, and so the prescription does not cure but kills the patient, thus the death of the West.

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I started reading this article without seeing who the author was. > I thought > jeepers this is good > look at this writer getting right to the reality of liberalism >>" who is this writer ? wait on >> ohhh right

it' s Morgoth one of the finest intellectuals in the United Kingdom > the first person whose voice some years ago dragged me from the progressive madness of New Zealand towards sanity and belief in ourselves

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I think we will soon see the parasite class get bored with messing with the normies and start on each other.

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Excellent article. But are the trappings of "Pragmatic Classical Liberalism" as provided by a Caesar really such a bleak outlook? Compared to the current situation and Bob Moran´s nightmare vision of the future, I feel positively joyous about such a scenario.

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“….from where will the oppositional force to this dystopia emerge? When looked at objectively it will be whoever pledges to hold the tyranny at bay. It will inevitably be people who believe in ‘‘rights’’ and the norms of Western Liberalism, whether the Dissident Right likes it or not.“

I’m reading Morgoth’s Review on Thanksgiving morning ultimately because of the indignation I’ve felt over the erosion of free speech for about the past decade. Not sure what that means or whether that makes me a “liberal” or whatever, but I value what I value and I want ourguys to win and be in charge. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Weinstein's video with Scottish gentile Neil Oliver contains, for my money, one of the most powerful anti-vax testimonies recorded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Gh_X1ycB8

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Although Musk is never going to touch the JQ, it appears the globohomo retarded left are getting increasingly worried about a shift in narrative or at least some counterbalance to their narrative being permitted to form. I get the impression he delights in fucking with people and a lot of his actions are to feed this peccadillo rather than serve any political preference or motivation.

On top of that, I have the sense he could turn on a sixpence.

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*looks up what reified means*

Totes.

Great article as usual, Morgs. It's certainly better than the GAE, but there's still something profoundly sad and dispiriting in the eternal compromise. Who knows, perhaps in all the chaos and confusion we might be able to carve out a small piece of England for ourselves?

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Thanks for turning me on to the Horus Heresy Morgy, I'm already on book 5. But why oh why did they have to make the hero "Saul Tarvitz"? Thousands of years in the future and still no escape...

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Haha!

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Very interesting, one really needs Spengler to correctly apply neo-monarchism outside of the vacuum in which it’s usually found. How do you think Socialism, the west’s religious tendency, fits into a classical liberal empire? Just an ossification of Great Society era stuff without the inflammatory rhetoric?

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Yes, benefits basically, and they'd live with that too. Though, the grimmer possibility would be UBI.

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Since anything seems better than the current state of things, part of us wants Caesarism to arrive simply in recognition of 'we can't go on like this'. I suspect there is always something centrist about all of Spengler's Caesars however, at least in their public image.

Really I came here to comment that the term 'normative' is misused here as it so often is. It is not a posh synonym for 'normal'. 'Normal' means unexceptional states of things, which is what was intended here. 'Normative' means statements and perspectives which are not descriptive but evaluative, particularly with respect to norms. 'Normal' juxtaposes 'exceptional'. 'Normative' juxtaposes 'descriptive'. Thank you for your time.

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